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June 7, 2007 at 6:20 pm

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  1. Is anyone working to adapt TiddlyWiki into a hierarchical outliner?

    That would be awesome!

    I checked out ThinkFold and it looks great. I’m looking forward to the public beta.


    June 13, 2007 at 1:12 pm

  2. Yes, there’s a few outlining tools for TiddlyWiki. The most popular is “TagglyTagging” which you can find out at It uses tags in a hierarchy to allow very rich structuring.


    June 13, 2007 at 6:04 pm

  3. Thanks for responding! I’ve played around a bit with the MonkeyPirate TiddlyWiki, but I’m looking for something a little different.

    With the way my brain works, I think I need a one-pane outliner, and that’s why I was intrigued when you said ThinkFold should do a TiddlyWiki adaptation.

    TiddlyWiki is great for organizing fragments; its powerful features kick in when you have many tiddlers.

    But a one-pane outliner is, for me at least, more suitable for producing long structured documents like essays and stories. Instead of adding new fragments to the heap, working with an outliner is more like fleshing out a skeleton. With an outliner, that skeleton– the overall structure of a document– is always explicit, but at the same time easily modifiable (just by dragging and dropping the main headings).

    Clicking on a WikiWord in TiddlyWiki opens up a new Tiddler Window, which ends up tearing my attention away from the original context.

    I’m easily distracted so it’s helpful for me to have, as in the case of the single-pane collapsible outliner, child nodes expanding in place.

    Anyway, this is not a criticism of TiddlyWiki; TiddlyWiki is impressive on so many levels, not least of which is the incredible community that has sprung up around it.

    I don’t have the programming skills to contribute code myself, but I would be very happy if somebody would come up with an open, browser-based outliner with a development model like TiddlyWiki’s.

    I could certainly contribute to such a project in other (non-coding) ways, like writing tutorials and FAQs and just promoting the idea in general (which is what I’m doing here, I guess 🙂 )

    If you are interested, I’ve put (in the “Website” field of this comment form) a link to an outline I’ve made on the subject of outlining.


    June 14, 2007 at 9:06 am

  4. You should totally be discussing this in the TiddlyWiki group, there’s a bunch of people that would be interested:


    June 14, 2007 at 10:47 am

  5. Thanks for the link to the group. I’ll post some of these ideas and see what response I get. cheers!


    June 14, 2007 at 3:28 pm

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